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Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.

Posted By: Taper_Mike
Date: Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 8:32 a.m.

In Response To: Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube. (mochy)

Let's say XG plays against XG but one side owns the cube in the starting position. How much edge does this side has?

With a little work, you can determine this exactly. In XG, you can make a rollout of the opening position with the cube on one side or the other. So, here is what you can do. Give the opponent the cube and opening roll, and then roll out all 15 possibilities. Next, give the opponent the cube, but give yourself the opening roll, and, once again, roll out all 15 possibilities. Use a spreadsheet to average the resulting equities.

I hope this answers the question you were asking.

Mike

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• Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
  mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 5:30 a.m.
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    Stick -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 5:40 a.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 8:45 a.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:40 a.m.
      • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 4:47 p.m.
      • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
        mochy -- Wednesday, 21 January 2015, at 12:56 a.m.
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    Casper Van der Tak -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 7:40 a.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:27 a.m.
      • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
        Casper Van der Tak -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:38 a.m.
        • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
          Mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:53 a.m.
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    AP -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 8:15 a.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:06 a.m.
  • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
    Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 8:32 a.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 8:39 a.m.
      • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
        Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 9:54 a.m.
        • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 9:58 a.m.
          • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
            Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:11 a.m.
      • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
        Mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 9:55 a.m.
  • PR3.0 difference in money game
    Mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 10:03 a.m.
    • PR3.0 difference in money game
      Maik Stiebler -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 2:50 p.m.
      • PR3.0 difference in money game
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 3:40 p.m.
        • PR3.0 difference in money game
          Maik Stiebler -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 9:08 a.m.
          • PR3.0 difference in money game
            Bob Koca -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 1:36 p.m.
            • PR3.0 difference in money game
              Maik Stiebler -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 3:19 p.m.
  • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
    eXtreme Gammon -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 2:39 p.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 3:37 p.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 3:57 p.m.
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        mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 4:00 p.m.
        • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
          Christian Munk-Christensen -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 5:46 p.m.
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      mochy -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 3:59 p.m.
    • It's not just about what XG says
      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 4:32 p.m.
      • It's not just about what XG says
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 5:00 p.m.
        • It's not just about what XG says
          Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 4:35 a.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Rick Janowski -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 11:50 p.m.
    • Am I missing something?
      rambiz -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 8:10 p.m.
      • Am I missing something? yes
        eXtreme Gammon -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 8:54 p.m.
        • Am I missing something? yes
          rambiz -- Friday, 23 January 2015, at 8:34 a.m.
  • Let's do it! That's the best way to find out
    Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 4:15 p.m.
    • Let's do it! That's the best way to find out
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 20 January 2015, at 4:23 p.m.
      • Let's do it! That's the best way to find out
        Steve Mellen -- Wednesday, 21 January 2015, at 5:40 a.m.
    • Let's do it! That's the best way to find out
      mochy -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 5:07 a.m.
      • Let's do it! That's the best way to find out
        Steve Mellen -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 6:38 a.m.
      • Let's do it. It's a deal
        Phil simborg -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 11:43 a.m.
        • Let's do it. It's a deal
          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 1:38 p.m.
          • Let's do it. It's a deal
            Phil simborg -- Thursday, 22 January 2015, at 3:08 p.m.
  • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
    Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 21 January 2015, at 12:40 a.m.
    • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
      Taper_Mike -- Wednesday, 21 January 2015, at 1:00 a.m.
      • Handicap Backgammon. One start with cube.
        Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 21 January 2015, at 1:34 a.m.