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1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 1:09 a.m.

In Response To: 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout (Petter Bengtsson)

The only conclusion I'd draw is that XG doesn't understand the position. When the rollout results show signs of internal inconsistency, I don't trust them.

I could imagine being convinced that breaking the midpoint is a bad idea, but it would take more than just one or two rollouts. For a start, I'd want to understand better what kind of misplays XG is making, so that I can get some feeling for what kinds of adjustments we need when interpreting them. Then I would want to see a plausible theory for why breaking the midpoint is bad. And then I would like to see that theory tested and supported by further data, that can plausibly be argued to not suffer irreparably from the XG misplays.

Messages In This Thread

• 1&3 Backgame #2
  Ian Dunstan -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 11:19 a.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2
    Casper Van der Tak -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 1:33 p.m.
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      scotty -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 4:23 p.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2
    Keene -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 2:38 p.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2
    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 4:57 p.m.
    • 1&3 Backgame #2
      rambiz -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 6:07 p.m.
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    ah_clem -- Monday, 11 August 2014, at 7:01 p.m.
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    BenF -- Tuesday, 12 August 2014, at 1:16 a.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2
    roadkillbooks -- Tuesday, 12 August 2014, at 8:36 a.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2
    christian munk-christensen -- Tuesday, 12 August 2014, at 10:49 a.m.
  • ****Spoiler**** 3-ply XG evaluations
    Ian Dunstan -- Tuesday, 12 August 2014, at 11:11 a.m.
    • ****Spoiler**** 3-ply XG evaluations
      Keene -- Tuesday, 12 August 2014, at 1:52 p.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2
    garyo -- Wednesday, 13 August 2014, at 5:30 a.m.
  • Rollout
    Ian Dunstan -- Wednesday, 13 August 2014, at 6:35 a.m.
  • 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout
    Petter Bengtsson -- Wednesday, 13 August 2014, at 1:41 p.m.
    • 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout
      Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 1:09 a.m.
      • 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout
        Ian Dunstan -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 5:39 a.m.
      • 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout
        Petter Bengtsson -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 6:24 a.m.
        • 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout
          Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 8:29 a.m.
      • 1&3 Backgame #2 --- 4-ply rollout
        Matt Cohn-Geier -- Thursday, 14 August 2014, at 5:40 p.m.