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Do we want fun or speed?

Posted By: Timothy Chow
Date: Tuesday, 6 September 2011, at 11:25 p.m.

In Response To: Do we want fun or speed? (leobueno)

In my chouette we do consult. Everyone behaves well and there are no problems. However, all it takes is one ornery person to spoil things for everyone else. So I can see how many chouettes feel driven to non-consultation. I agree with you that it does cut into the fun.

I don't, however, think that the Jacoby rule falls into this category. For a strong player, the Jacoby rule doesn't really change the strategy except in certain very rare situations, and even then I don't think the differences it introduces are particularly interesting from a strategic point of view.

The Jacoby rule exists to cope with the problem of a weak player who is afraid to ever turn the cube. With the Jacoby rule, such a player can eventually be induced to turn the cube when they see that everyone will pass. Without the Jacoby rule, everyone else has to endure the frustration of seeing the player lose gobs of equity by missing double after double after double but occasionally winning a gammon anyway, after a painstakingly long game.

Messages In This Thread

• Do we want fun or speed?
  leobueno -- Tuesday, 6 September 2011, at 10:00 p.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Daniel Murphy -- Tuesday, 6 September 2011, at 10:20 p.m.
    • Do we want fun or speed?
      Jake Jacobs -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 4:07 a.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 6 September 2011, at 11:25 p.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Julia Hayward -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 10:21 a.m.
    • Do we want fun or speed?
      Julia Hayward -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 11:21 a.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Stick -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 10:32 a.m.
    • Do we want fun or speed? and the Jacoby rule
      leobueno -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 1:12 p.m.
      • Do we want fun or speed? and the Jacoby rule
        Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 2:42 p.m.
    • Do we want fun or speed?
      Chuck Bower -- Friday, 9 September 2011, at 12:04 a.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Steve Mellen -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 3:30 p.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Mike Main -- Wednesday, 7 September 2011, at 3:59 p.m.
  • Do we want fun or speed?
    Phil Simborg -- Thursday, 8 September 2011, at 3:01 p.m.