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OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?

Posted By: Fender
Date: Monday, 22 September 2014, at 8:04 p.m.

We all know that backgammon is a game of skill and luck. And the more I studied backgammon the more I saw my results improve.

But with poker, I never saw my results improve after studying. I did sometimes go deep in cheap online tournaments, but never really felt I got there because of any skill, more getting lucky on all ins.

Also this one liner I keep hearing 'If poker is a game of luck, why do you always see teh same faces at the final table' is the most ridiculous quote I have ever read, because when I look at tournament results, I always keep seeing completely different names at the final table.

The same people that always scream 'Poker is skill' are always the same people that scream 'The world champion sucks'.

I do think there is a little bit skill in poker, but I don't think a lifetime is long enough for the long run to even out and still has luck as the most important factor.

I am mostly talking about tournament poker here. I don't have much experience with cash game poker.

I risk being regarded here as a idiot, but I am sorry I just don't see the skill in poker.

Offcourse I could have posted this in a poker forum, but I will just get flamed there, just like writing that cocaine is bad for your health on a forum of recreational cocaine snorters.

Messages In This Thread

• OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
  Fender -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 8:04 p.m.
  • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
    Stick -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 9:02 p.m.
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    gammonitis -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 9:10 p.m.
  • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
    Timothy Chow -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 11:38 p.m.
    • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 11:52 p.m.
      • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
        Fatboy -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:14 a.m.
      • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
        Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 2:49 p.m.
  • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
    Fatboy -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 11:50 p.m.
  • Not according to Kit
    phil simborg -- Monday, 22 September 2014, at 11:53 p.m.
    • Not according to Kit
      Fatboy -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:26 a.m.
    • Not according to Kit
      AdamStocks -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:01 p.m.
      • Not according to Kit
        phil simborg -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:28 p.m.
        • Not according to Kit
          AdamStocks -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 6:55 p.m.
          • Not according to Kit
            Fatboy -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 7:13 p.m.
  • OT: Academic paper: The Role of Skill Versus Luck in Poker Evidence From the World Series of Poker
    leobueno -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 1:41 a.m.
    • OT: Academic paper: The Role of Skill Versus Luck in Poker Evidence From the World Series of Poker
      AdamStocks -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:17 p.m.
  • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
    David Rennie -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 3:02 a.m.
    • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
      Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 4:19 a.m.
      • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
        David Rennie -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 4:23 a.m.
        • David, you have hit on the most important skill in poker or backgammon
          phil simborg -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:32 p.m.
          • David, you have hit on the most important skill in poker or backgammon
            lenny -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 11:41 p.m.
      • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 4:25 a.m.
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    tuvi -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 3:26 a.m.
    • It is not that much harder in backgammon
      phil simborg -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 12:35 p.m.
      • It is not that much harder in backgammon
        BenF -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 10:41 p.m.
  • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
    lenny -- Tuesday, 23 September 2014, at 4:57 a.m.
  • OT: Am I the only one here who thinks poker is almost all pure luck?
    ah_clem -- Wednesday, 24 September 2014, at 1:31 p.m.