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Rules Breakthrough in LA

Posted By: Bill Riles
Date: Monday, 3 June 2013, at 12:07 a.m.

In Response To: Rules Breakthrough in LA (Phil Simborg)

I much prefer to play 'legal moves'. I typically play in accord with 'legal moves' regardless of whether the topic has been addressed by mutual agreement, or by rule, prior to the match.

Recently, in Chicago, I never gave a second thought to allowing one opponent to roll and play after he had inadvertently hit the clock, without rolling, immediately after I had danced and hit the clock -- though I was a favorite to enter and he had a blot in his home board. We had not addressed 'legal moves'. He is a gentleman, an honorable person, and a very good player. I cannot imagine having done otherwise, I wouldn't wish to win in such a manner.

However, I have always considered 'legal moves' an unenforceable rule. There is no way to discern between when someone fails to notice an illegal play or chooses not to see an illegal play that is advantageous. There is no way to discern between when someone makes an accidental illegal play and when someone attempts to gain advantage by making an illegal play -- and then fails to notice the illegal play. Oftentimes, the dice do not remain on the table. The roll may be contested. Yet, in 'legal moves' play, the honorable and principled player is always expected, and bound, to act appropriately; the less than honorable and less than principled player (there are some, fortunately they are very few) is free to advantageously disregard the rule without repercussion.

I will gladly play 'legal moves' with anyone; however, if I discover, or strongly suspect, my opponent is not reciprocating (and is taking advantage of the situation) I want the freedom to not be bound by a provision placing me at a disadvantage.

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  Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 2 June 2013, at 11:12 p.m.
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    BenF -- Sunday, 2 June 2013, at 11:31 p.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 2 June 2013, at 11:57 p.m.
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        Steve Mellen -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 1:34 p.m.
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    Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 12:07 a.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 12:27 a.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 1:04 a.m.
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      Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 1:10 a.m.
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        Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 1:34 a.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 11:25 p.m.
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        Chuck Bower -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 4:54 p.m.
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          Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 5:57 p.m.
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            Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 5:59 p.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 11:19 p.m.
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    Michael Petch -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 1:08 a.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 1:30 a.m.
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    Art Grater -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 2:36 a.m.
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      Sam Pottle -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 8:22 a.m.
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        Art Grater -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 2:48 a.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 3:09 p.m.
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    Ken Larsen -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:55 a.m.
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      neilkaz -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 5:42 p.m.
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        Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 5:49 p.m.
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          Ken Larsen -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:00 p.m.
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            Chuck Bower -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 8:07 p.m.
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        Dmitriy Obukhov -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:08 p.m.
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          Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:21 p.m.
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            Colin Owen -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:49 p.m.
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              neilkaz -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:54 p.m.
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              Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:12 p.m.
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            Dmitriy Obukhov -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:51 p.m.
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          The Hammer -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:03 p.m.
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            Dmitriy Obukhov -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:46 p.m.
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            Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:57 p.m.
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          Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:54 p.m.
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      KenB -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:58 p.m.
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        Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:51 p.m.
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    Bill Finneran -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 12:28 p.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 9:29 p.m.
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        Wolf -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 8:55 p.m.
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        Bill Finneran -- Wednesday, 5 June 2013, at 1:01 a.m.
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    Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 6:27 p.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 7:50 p.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 8:03 p.m.
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      neilkaz -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 8:10 p.m.
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        Bill Riles -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 8:25 p.m.
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          Colin Owen -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 3:23 a.m.
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        Dmitriy Obukhov -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 10:11 p.m.
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          Chuck Bower -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 10:27 p.m.
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    David Rennie -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 8:15 p.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 3:47 a.m.
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      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 1:07 p.m.
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        David Rennie -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 5:18 p.m.
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    Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 9:02 p.m.
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      Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 9:24 p.m.
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        Phil Simborg -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 9:55 p.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 11:12 p.m.
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          Daniel Murphy -- Monday, 3 June 2013, at 11:45 p.m.
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    lenny -- Tuesday, 4 June 2013, at 4:59 a.m.