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Some counter-evidence

Posted By: Chuck Bower
Date: Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 11:11 p.m.

In Response To: Some evidence (Bob koca)

A 1-ply vs. 1-ply rollout at cubeless-$ (IMO how many players view GG/GS -- i.e. they don't change they're strategy and tactics much from their usual play), 10k trials give 1.1% more wins to 13/5 and 1.7% more gammons to 8/5, 8/3*.

This seems far from making the former "the better choice for most, if not all human players".

Messages In This Thread

• 41$-52S-53 at GG
  John O'Hagan -- Thursday, 2 June 2016, at 3:39 p.m.
  • 41$-52S-53 at GG
    ah_clem -- Thursday, 2 June 2016, at 4:55 p.m.
  • 41$-52S-53 at GG
    Keene -- Thursday, 2 June 2016, at 6:14 p.m.
    • 41$-52S-53 at GG
      neilkaz -- Friday, 3 June 2016, at 2:25 a.m.
  • 41$-52S-53 at GG
    HOMINID -- Friday, 3 June 2016, at 1:38 p.m.
  • 41$-52S-53 at GG
    Taper_Mike -- Friday, 3 June 2016, at 6:48 p.m.
  • RO
    John O'Hagan -- Friday, 3 June 2016, at 8:18 p.m.
    • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
      Jim Stutz -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 2:38 a.m.
      • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
        Bob Koca -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 4:01 a.m.
        • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
          Jim Stutz -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 5:09 a.m.
          • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
            Stick -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 5:36 a.m.
            • Hey Stick, how do you say "prop" in French?
              Jim Stutz -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 12:49 p.m.
              • Hey Stick, how do you say "prop" in French?
                Bob Koca -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 4:44 p.m.
              • Hey Stick, how do you say "prop" in French?
                Stick -- Monday, 6 June 2016, at 5:19 a.m.
          • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
            Bob Koca -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 5:37 a.m.
      • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
        Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 5:44 p.m.
        • Some evidence
          Bob koca -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 5:48 p.m.
          • Some counter-evidence
            Chuck Bower -- Saturday, 4 June 2016, at 11:11 p.m.
            • Some counter-evidence
              Bob Koca -- Sunday, 5 June 2016, at 1:09 a.m.
              • Some counter-evidence
                Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 5 June 2016, at 11:32 a.m.
        • Playing the GG side requires more checker-play skill, on average, than defending against GG
          Jim Stutz -- Sunday, 5 June 2016, at 12:29 a.m.
          • Playing the GG side requires more checker-play skill, on average, than defending against GG
            Bob Koca -- Sunday, 5 June 2016, at 1:06 a.m.
            • Playing GG requires more checker-play skill, on average, than playing GS
              Jim Stutz -- Sunday, 5 June 2016, at 4:29 a.m.
      • 13-5 is the better choice for most, if not all, human players, IMO
        Keene -- Monday, 6 June 2016, at 2:38 p.m.