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I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff

Posted By: Phil Simborg
Date: Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 2:05 p.m.

In Response To: I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff (Stick)

Here I don't entirely agree with Stick. I don't know many top backgammon players that are not reasonably strong at math, and many of them are great at math.

Relative to Pineapple Bluff Gammon, I don't know many people who, over the board can figure out the odds. I have only played with a couple who could: Joe Russell and Jim Pasko, and Hino (Akiko's husband). And knowing the odds greatly increases your ability to play the game and use the cube (and bluffing) well in this variation.

Knowing the odds of hitting etc. in normal backgammon is not that difficult and there are many shortcuts, but coming up with your doubling window and take point at different scores and calculating your winning chances in a given position and the affect of cube vig can require some pretty heavy duty calculations.

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      • Pre-Registered Players List
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  • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
    Phil Simborg -- Monday, 25 July 2016, at 11:52 a.m.
    • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
      Stick -- Tuesday, 13 September 2016, at 10:50 a.m.
      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
        Igor -- Tuesday, 13 September 2016, at 4:15 p.m.
      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
        Timothy Chow -- Tuesday, 13 September 2016, at 4:52 p.m.
        • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
          Stick -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 6:12 a.m.
          • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
            Timothy Chow -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 2:53 p.m.
            • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
              Stick -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 3:04 p.m.
              • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 7:54 a.m.
              • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 5:02 p.m.
                • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                  Stick -- Friday, 16 September 2016, at 1:22 p.m.
                  • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                    Timothy Chow -- Friday, 16 September 2016, at 5:23 p.m.
                    • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                      Stick -- Friday, 16 September 2016, at 6:36 p.m.
                      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                        Casper Van der Tak -- Friday, 16 September 2016, at 8:08 p.m.
                      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                        Jake Jacobs -- Saturday, 17 September 2016, at 5:15 a.m.
                      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                        Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 18 September 2016, at 7:49 p.m.
          • Turrible
            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 11:57 p.m.
          • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
            mamabear -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 3:31 p.m.
      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
        Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 2:05 p.m.
        • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
          Stick -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 2:27 p.m.
          • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
            Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 5:25 p.m.
            • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
              Stick -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 10:10 p.m.
              • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 11:29 p.m.
                • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                  Jake Jacobs -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 2:40 a.m.
                  • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
                    Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 5:21 p.m.
          • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
            Bob Koca -- Wednesday, 14 September 2016, at 11:25 p.m.
          • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
            Keene -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 2:18 p.m.
          • Another possible false assumption and false conclusion
            Phil Simborg -- Sunday, 18 September 2016, at 8:23 a.m.
            • Another possible false assumption and false conclusion
              Colin Owen -- Sunday, 18 September 2016, at 11:23 a.m.
              • Another possible false assumptiousion--case in point
                Phil Simborg -- Monday, 19 September 2016, at 1:11 a.m.
        • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
          Florin Popa -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 9:43 a.m.
      • I like my chances/ and so Pineapple Bluff Gammon stuff
        Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 15 September 2016, at 10:10 a.m.