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Allaying concerns about dice hacking.

Posted By: mamabear
Date: Monday, 4 April 2016, at 7:17 p.m.

In Response To: Allaying concerns about dice hacking. (Timothy Chow)

If the method you outline here can be carried out in a relatively quick and seamless manner, which I think could be arranged with simple programming, with those random-number lists put on inexpensive USB drives that the TD would be free to examine at any time, you could probably convince most people that it is safe and effective.

Even if it took a few minutes at the start of a match to get this procedure set up and running, the time would be more than made up by shortening the mechanical process of dice-rolling, picking up and shaking etc. Players and TDs would all realize this after just a few matches.

Eventually, some procedure along these lines would become the gold standard, and organizations such as USBGF, the European outfits, and top-level players with CS degrees and experience would all endorse it. At that point, I think it would gain general acceptance as at least a permissible alternative to current SOP.

One advantage we found in chouette when using the electronic dice machine one of the players built, was that its large red LED display was easily visible to everyone. That meant no need for outside players jockeying around trying to see the roll, or having to ask what it was. But would other people in other places trust such a device for their own chouette? Hmmm...it might depend on who brought the thing. If they used to lose regularly, then start winning a lot, they might find it wrapped around their ears some night >>

Messages In This Thread

• electronic dice
  Phil simborg -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 4:47 p.m.
  • Other advsntages
    Phil simborg -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 4:58 p.m.
    • I agree with Phil
      Ken Larsen -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 5:47 p.m.
      • I agree with Phil
        Jakob Garal -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 10:45 p.m.
        • I agree with Phil--about that sensor board
          phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 1:54 a.m.
          • I agree with Phil--about that sensor board
            Jake Jacobs -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 3:56 a.m.
            • about that sensor board
              Jakob Garal -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 7:22 p.m.
          • I agree with Phil--about that sensor board
            Jakob Garal -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 7:10 p.m.
      • I agree with Phil
        phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 1:48 a.m.
        • I agree with Phil
          Taper_Mike -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 3:45 a.m.
          • I agree with Phil--even more important
            Phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 5:26 a.m.
    • Other advsntages
      Rick Janowski -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 7:29 p.m.
      • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
        David Levy -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 7:46 p.m.
        • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
          phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 1:58 a.m.
          • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
            Bob Koca -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 3:05 a.m.
            • Bob is right, but that doesn't matter!
              phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 12:15 p.m.
              • Bob is right, but that doesn't matter!
                Chuck Bower -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 12:25 p.m.
                • How to distinguish between a scientist and philosopher
                  phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 4:10 p.m.
              • Bob is right, and it matters.
                Jason Lee -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 12:51 p.m.
              • Bob is right, but that doesn't matter!
                Timothy Chow -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 2:25 p.m.
                • Bob is right, but that doesn't matter!
                  Casper Van der Tak -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 3:10 p.m.
          • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
            mamabear -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 2:30 p.m.
            • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
              phil simborg -- Sunday, 3 April 2016, at 4:22 p.m.
            • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
              Timothy Chow -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 4:32 p.m.
              • Allaying concerns about dice hacking.
                mamabear -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 7:17 p.m.
                • It all about how change happens
                  phil simborg -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 9:15 p.m.
    • It is more important to do right things than just do them right.
      Jakob Garal -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 2:17 p.m.
      • Yes, Jakob, I am looking for something else
        phil simborg -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 9:05 p.m.
        • Phil, you are welcome to test!
          Jakob Garal -- Sunday, 10 April 2016, at 2:24 p.m.
      • It is more important to do right things than just do them right.
        Casper Van der Tak -- Tuesday, 5 April 2016, at 9:07 a.m.
        • thank you...you are right
          phil simborg -- Tuesday, 5 April 2016, at 2:00 p.m.
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      Albert Steg -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 5:49 p.m.
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        mamabear -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 7:28 p.m.
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      johnk -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 7:11 p.m.
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        phil simborg -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 8:51 p.m.
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          johnk -- Monday, 4 April 2016, at 9:33 p.m.
  • electronic dice
    Rick Janowski -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 7:24 p.m.
  • Built-in clock
    Taper_Mike -- Saturday, 2 April 2016, at 9:56 p.m.