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Posted By: Jason Lee
Date: Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:48 p.m.

In Response To: Error Rates (Matt Cohn-Geier)

Past performance is largely the best indicator of future skill IMO.

I think a better indicator is: past skill is an indicator of future performance.

We seem to roughly agree on "performance" -- it's all about winning matches and/or winning tournaments. It's the definition of "skill" that's slipping through the cracks. I can't give a complete definition of skill, but I want to say that playing with a low ER is ONE component of skill. I have not said, nor will I ever say, that it is the entire component of skill.

Most people confuse "performance" with winning tournaments or money or something...you can have a high match/money winning percentage and not win a tournament for awhile if you don't put a streak on over a weekend.

Depends on what your goal is... do you want a high winning percentage, or do you want to win tournaments? Isn't the ultimate goal to win tournaments? You could turn out a record like 14-3 in an ABT tournament and not cash. Do you think you were successful? I don't think you were.

Winning matches is a decent indicator of skill, provided you have a large sample size. This reminds me that I wanted to go back and see my overall winning percentage in ABT events (excluding any side events, of course).

Winning tournaments is a fairly poor indicator of skill, since there's so much luck involved. I've won more ABT events than Stick and MCG put together.

JLee

Messages In This Thread

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  Stick -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:42 a.m.
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    Christian Munk-Christensen -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:17 a.m.
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      Stick -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:24 a.m.
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        Christian Munk-Christensen -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 10:29 a.m.
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          Stick -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 10:41 a.m.
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      Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 3:20 p.m.
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        Christian Munk-Christensen -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 4:39 p.m.
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          Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 6:04 p.m.
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            Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 6:16 p.m.
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      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 5:33 p.m.
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    mikeg -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 2:53 p.m.
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    Rod -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 2:57 p.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 3:04 p.m.
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    Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 3:15 p.m.
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      David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 3:20 p.m.
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        Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 3:29 p.m.
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      Tom Keith -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 4:32 p.m.
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    David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 4:20 p.m.
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    Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 4:24 p.m.
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      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:16 p.m.
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      Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:22 p.m.
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    Coolrey -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 4:54 p.m.
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      Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 5:27 p.m.
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      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 6:49 p.m.
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        Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 7:11 p.m.
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          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:06 p.m.
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            Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:10 p.m.
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              Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:51 p.m.
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                Bill Riles -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:29 p.m.
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                  Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 10:28 p.m.
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                    Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 11:32 p.m.
                    • At what ER are you considered a fish?
                      Christian Munk-Christensen -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 7:52 a.m.
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                        Rod -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 1:32 p.m.
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                        Frank_N_Stein -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 3:25 p.m.
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                          Bill Riles -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 3:52 p.m.
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                            Frank_N_Stein -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 8:42 p.m.
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                              David Rockwell -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 9:48 p.m.
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                                Frank_N_Stein -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 10:41 p.m.
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                              adambulldog -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 3:42 a.m.
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                                Frank_N_Stein -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:39 a.m.
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                                Keene -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 6:48 a.m.
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                              phil Simborg -- Thursday, 30 April 2009, at 4:27 p.m.
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                          Rich Munitz -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 1:30 a.m.
                          • At what ER are you considered a fish?
                            Christian Munk-Christensen -- Friday, 1 May 2009, at 7:49 a.m.
                      • if you look around ---
                        garyo -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 4:03 p.m.
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                Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:37 p.m.
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                Rich Munitz -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 10:21 p.m.
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              Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 10:54 p.m.
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            Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:48 p.m.
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              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:12 p.m.
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              Coolrey -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 11:26 p.m.
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                Matt Cohn-Geier -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 11:46 p.m.
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        Stick -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:22 p.m.
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          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:34 p.m.
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            Stick -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 9:36 p.m.
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              Chuck Bower -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 10:46 p.m.
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      Marv Porten -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 7:20 p.m.
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      Stick -- Tuesday, 28 April 2009, at 8:17 p.m.
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        Havard Raddum -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 8:13 a.m.
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          misja -- Wednesday, 29 April 2009, at 10:55 a.m.