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Regardless, the IMPORTANT issue is...

Posted By: Barry Silliman
Date: Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 1:12 p.m.

In Response To: Regardless, the IMPORTANT issue is... (Rod)

I was waiting for somebody to bring up reason #2 against online master points. (Or at least against mixing them up in the same bucket as master points earned in live play). I agree with reason #1 that it is just flat out too easy to cheat online in the comfort of one's home.

But don't we want the master points system to encourage live attendance? Giving masters points for online play that are commingled with live points discourages that. This is the most important reason I'm against it. Even if we knew with absolute certainty that nobody would ever cheat online, I'd still be against it because I don't want it to be a substitute for live attendance.

Let's look at the economics of this from the USBGF's point of view. Would they rather have 10,000 dues-paying members that played exclusively online or have 500 dues-paying members that played exclusively live. (Obviously they want both constituencies but I think my hypothetical question indicates why online master points are in the proposal).

I think I'll take Joe's advice and ignore the "Online" column in the table.

Messages In This Thread

• USBGF proposed master point system
  Rod -- Wednesday, 4 December 2013, at 6:38 p.m.
  • USBGF proposed master point system
    Stick -- Wednesday, 4 December 2013, at 7:38 p.m.
    • USBGF proposed master point system
      Rod -- Wednesday, 4 December 2013, at 8:04 p.m.
      • USBGF proposed master point system
        Stick -- Wednesday, 4 December 2013, at 9:02 p.m.
        • Cheating and the farcical nature of MP awarded for online, non-proctored play
          Rod -- Wednesday, 4 December 2013, at 11:53 p.m.
        • USBGF proposed master point system
          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 4:01 p.m.
          • USBGF proposed master point system
            Stick -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 5:07 p.m.
  • USBGF proposed master point system
    Joe Russell -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 5:59 a.m.
    • So stupid
      Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 6:11 a.m.
      • Wait... I'll retract that...
        Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 6:14 a.m.
      • So stupid
        Joe Russell -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 7:16 a.m.
        • Every study ever conducted contradicts your finding and your rationale
          Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 7:48 a.m.
          • Cheating for ZILCH - it is common. Why?
            Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:13 a.m.
        • your beliefs versus reality
          Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 9:16 a.m.
        • So stupid
          Bob Koca -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 4:02 p.m.
      • Stop screwing with the headings
        Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 2:51 p.m.
        • Way many jokers
          Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 3:03 p.m.
          • Way many jokers
            Daniel Murphy -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 6:52 p.m.
            • Poker bracelets from online play? Nope....
              Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 10:43 p.m.
              • Poker bracelets from online play? Yup....
                Stick -- Friday, 6 December 2013, at 10:14 a.m.
                • A concession: Yes and no, what that means and why, and suggestions for the USBGF
                  Rod -- Friday, 6 December 2013, at 6:07 p.m.
    • Cheating rates
      Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 6:19 a.m.
      • Cheating rates
        Stick -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:33 a.m.
        • Cheating rates
          Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:38 a.m.
          • Cheating rates
            Stick -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:53 a.m.
            • 7% of American social gamers cheat online
              Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 9:33 a.m.
              • 7% of American social gamers cheat online
                Stick -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 10:06 a.m.
                • Maybe, maybe not
                  Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 10:35 a.m.
                • Regardless, the IMPORTANT issue is...
                  Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 10:48 a.m.
                  • Regardless, the IMPORTANT issue is...
                    Barry Silliman -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 1:12 p.m.
                    • Regardless, the IMPORTANT issue is...
                      Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 1:45 p.m.
              • 7% of American social gamers cheat online
                Igor -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 5:50 p.m.
                • 7% of American social gamers cheat online
                  Henrik Bukkjaer -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 11:03 p.m.
      • Cheating its everywhere!!
        DanielP -- Friday, 6 December 2013, at 12:33 p.m.
    • $500 bet
      Rod -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 6:23 a.m.
      • $500 bet
        Dmitriy Obukhov -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:33 a.m.
        • $500 bet
          Stick -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:35 a.m.
          • $500 bet
            Dmitriy Obukhov -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 8:39 a.m.
            • $500 bet
              Michael Petch -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 9:37 p.m.
  • USBGF proposed master point system
    jdg -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 3:18 p.m.
  • USBGF proposed master point system IS WHAT?
    Bob Koca -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 4:09 p.m.
    • USBGF proposed master point system IS WHAT?
      Igor -- Thursday, 5 December 2013, at 5:31 p.m.