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Early vs late round byes, some math for single elim

Posted By: neilkaz
Date: Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 7:14 p.m.

In Response To: Early vs late round byes, some math for single elim (Bob Koca)

I'd compensate everything for the 3 player bye into the finals. The math can be done even when the loser gets to play in the conso and LC. All 3 players' equity can be equalized.

As for waits with rd 1 byes, at some pt, players will be waiting around for those many who played an extra match to catch up and there are also issues of byes in the conso.

A 24 player bracket also plays down to 3 players left in the conso, and the losing player in the main semis (Mary in CT) can feed into the semis of the conso to make it an even 4.

Messages In This Thread

• CT tournament review - brief
  Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 4:09 a.m.
  • CT tournament review - brief
    Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 11:53 a.m.
    • CT tournament review - brief
      Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 12:24 p.m.
      • CT tournament review - brief
        Michael Petch -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 12:47 p.m.
        • CT tournament review - brief
          mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 1:01 p.m.
          • CT tournament review - brief
            Michael Petch -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 2:32 p.m.
          • No Calcutta
            Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 4:23 p.m.
            • No Calcutta
              Keene -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 4:43 p.m.
              • No Calcutta
                Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 5:33 p.m.
              • No Calcutta
                Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 5:46 p.m.
              • No Calcutta
                MishyPoo -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 5:51 p.m.
                • No Calcutta
                  neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 5:57 p.m.
                • No Calcutta
                  Michael Petch -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:07 p.m.
                  • No Calcutta
                    MishyPoo -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:38 p.m.
                    • No Calcutta
                      neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:26 p.m.
            • No Calcutta
              Neal Weiner -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 5:09 p.m.
      • CT tournament review - brief
        Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 12:54 p.m.
      • CT tournament review - brief
        Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 2:06 p.m.
      • CT tournament review - brief
        Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 2:21 p.m.
        • CT tournament review - brief
          mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 4:01 p.m.
          • Hedge/settlement for non-bye loser?
            Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 4:26 p.m.
            • Hedge/settlement for non-bye loser?
              Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 4:44 p.m.
            • Hedge/settlement for non-bye loser?
              mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:40 p.m.
              • Hedge/settlement for non-bye loser?
                Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:43 p.m.
                • Hedge/settlement for non-bye loser?
                  mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 9:05 p.m.
        • CT tournament review - brief
          Jason Lee -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 11:56 p.m.
          • CT tournament review - brief
            Rod -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 12:17 a.m.
    • CT tournament review - brief
      Jake Jacobs -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:51 a.m.
    • Early v. Late Round Byes
      Henrik Bukkjaer -- Wednesday, 27 November 2013, at 12:57 a.m.
      • Early v. Late Round Byes
        storm -- Monday, 16 December 2013, at 10:43 a.m.
        • Early v. Late Round Byes
          Henrik Bukkjaer -- Monday, 16 December 2013, at 11:25 a.m.
          • Early v. Late Round Byes
            storm -- Thursday, 2 October 2014, at 2:50 p.m.
      • Early v. Late Round Byes
        Bob Koca -- Thursday, 19 December 2013, at 5:18 p.m.
        • Early v. Late Round Byes
          Henrik Bukkjaer -- Friday, 20 December 2013, at 12:53 a.m.
          • Early v. Late Round Byes
            Taper_Mike -- Friday, 20 December 2013, at 8:58 a.m.
  • CT tournament review - brief
    David Rockwell -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:01 p.m.
    • CT tournament review - brief
      Keene -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:16 p.m.
      • CT tournament review - brief
        Colin Owen -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:24 a.m.
    • Ross and next year
      Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 8:04 p.m.
      • Ross and next year
        David Rockwell -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 8:46 p.m.
        • Ross and next year
          neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 10:31 p.m.
          • Ross and next year
            mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 11:41 p.m.
          • Ft lauderdale masters - same issue
            Rod -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 12:15 a.m.
            • Ft lauderdale masters - same issue
              Jason Lee -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 12:26 a.m.
            • Ft lauderdale masters - same issue
              neilkaz -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 4:12 p.m.
  • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
    neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:38 p.m.
    • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
      mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 6:50 p.m.
      • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
        neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:24 p.m.
        • Exactly
          Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:39 p.m.
        • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
          mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 8:59 p.m.
          • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
            neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 10:08 p.m.
            • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
              mamabear -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 11:38 p.m.
    • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
      Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:30 p.m.
      • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
        neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:38 p.m.
        • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
          Tom Keith -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 7:50 p.m.
        • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
          Bob Koca -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 8:33 p.m.
          • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
            Matt Reklaitis -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 8:42 p.m.
            • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
              Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 12:04 a.m.
              • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
                David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 1:05 a.m.
          • Neither Neil, David nor I are idiots
            Rod -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 8:54 p.m.
            • Neither Neil, David nor I are idiots
              Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:47 a.m.
              • Neither Neil, David nor I are idiots
                neilkaz -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:56 a.m.
              • Neither Neil, David nor I are idiots
                David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 3:15 a.m.
          • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
            neilkaz -- Monday, 28 October 2013, at 10:03 p.m.
            • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
              David Presser -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 5:15 a.m.
          • WOW ..an uncompensated bye was given into the finals of an ABT event!!
            David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 12:34 a.m.
    • Early vs late round byes
      Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:59 a.m.
      • Early vs late round byes
        David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 3:34 a.m.
        • Early vs late round byes
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 3:56 a.m.
          • Early vs late round byes
            David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 4:37 a.m.
      • Early vs late round byes - spectators
        Casper Van der Tak -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 3:43 a.m.
        • Early vs late round byes - spectators
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 4:00 a.m.
          • Early vs late round byes - spectators
            Casper Van der Tak -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 4:13 a.m.
      • Early vs late round byes
        Joe Russell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 8:47 a.m.
      • Early vs late round byes, some math for single elim
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 6:29 p.m.
        • Early vs late round byes, some math for single elim
          Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 7:05 p.m.
          • Early vs late round byes, some math for single elim
            neilkaz -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 7:14 p.m.
        • Auctioning late round byes is fairer
          Casper Van der Tak -- Wednesday, 30 October 2013, at 12:28 a.m.
          • Auctioning late round byes is fairer
            neilkaz -- Wednesday, 30 October 2013, at 3:40 p.m.
    • This could have been much worse.
      mamabear -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 11:08 a.m.
      • This could have been much worse.
        Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 11:40 a.m.
        • This could have been much worse.
          Matt Cohn-Geier -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 5:55 p.m.
  • All Byes Should Be Compensated
    Taper_Mike -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 10:12 a.m.
  • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
    Bill Finneran -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 1:51 p.m.
    • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
      Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:30 p.m.
      • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
        David Rockwell -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:56 p.m.
      • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
        neilkaz -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 3:41 p.m.
    • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
      Phil Simborg -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 2:39 p.m.
      • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
        Bob Koca -- Tuesday, 29 October 2013, at 3:16 p.m.
        • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
          Phil Simborg -- Wednesday, 30 October 2013, at 12:27 p.m.
    • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
      Art Grater -- Sunday, 3 November 2013, at 5:28 a.m.
      • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
        Bob Koca -- Sunday, 3 November 2013, at 3:43 p.m.
        • Solution - Auction the Byes in the first round!!!
          Art Grater -- Sunday, 3 November 2013, at 9:06 p.m.
  • CT tournament review - brief
    roadkillbooks -- Wednesday, 30 October 2013, at 4:06 a.m.