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What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?

Posted By: sebalotek
Date: Friday, 23 September 2016, at 8:13 a.m.

In Response To: What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins? (Casper Van der Tak)

>> I think there is a perfect tiebreaker - playing for it!

Agreed. As I tried to say a couple of times, this is my preference if and wherever time and player availability permit i.e. most likely in a sit-down tournament setting, not a time-limited fortnightly league meeting.

Another thing to consider is the value of consistency. What if 2nd and 3rd place are tied on points. Or 3rd and 4th place?

Does it then become acceptable to use score difference to separate those positions?

Or should we be consistent and have extra game(s) played to separate them as well?

I was looking for a simple, practical and consistent solution but **if using score difference really is that bad a tool, that implies that we should be using extra matches throughout the table**

This does not sound remotely practical to me - extra matches all over the place!

As in the chess world, smarter people than me have tried to find a tie-break solution (apart from playing for it) to please everybody all of the time, and they have all failed to gain unanimous support. I should learn from this :)

Thanks again for your suggestions all, I'm going to try and move on to something more productive.

Messages In This Thread

• What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
  sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 9:53 a.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 12:04 p.m.
    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
      sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 1:06 p.m.
      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
        Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 1:53 p.m.
  • The possibility of a tie is why I don't care for round robins
    Ken Larsen -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 12:17 p.m.
    • The possibility of a tie is why I don't care for round robins
      sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 1:29 p.m.
      • The possibility of a tie is why I don't care for round robins
        Timothy Chow -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 3:10 p.m.
        • The possibility of a tie is why I don't care for round robins
          sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 3:54 p.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    David Levy -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 1:57 p.m.
    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
      Casper Van der Tak -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 2:29 p.m.
      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
        sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 3:28 p.m.
        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
          neilkaz -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 4:03 p.m.
    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
      sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 3:08 p.m.
      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
        David Levy -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 4:33 p.m.
        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
          sebalotek -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 6:52 p.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    neilkaz -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 2:52 p.m.
    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins? +1
      Bill Riles -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 8:02 p.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    Rick Janowski -- Thursday, 22 September 2016, at 9:50 p.m.
    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
      sebalotek -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 5:38 a.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    Colin Owen -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 12:55 a.m.
    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
      sebalotek -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 5:54 a.m.
      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
        Casper Van der Tak -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 7:32 a.m.
        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
          sebalotek -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 8:13 a.m.
          • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
            Rick Janowski -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 8:56 a.m.
            • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
              sebalotek -- Friday, 30 September 2016, at 7:21 a.m.
              • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                Jakob Garal -- Saturday, 1 October 2016, at 9:03 p.m.
                • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                  Bob Koca -- Saturday, 1 October 2016, at 11:33 p.m.
                  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                    Jakob Garal -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 8:36 a.m.
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                      Rick Janowski -- Monday, 3 October 2016, at 6:48 a.m.
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                        Jakob Garal -- Monday, 3 October 2016, at 9:52 p.m.
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                          Rick Janowski -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 5:21 a.m.
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                            Jakob Garal -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 1:16 p.m.
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                              Casper Van der Tak -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 2:10 p.m.
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                                Jakob Garal -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 12:03 a.m.
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                                  Casper Van der Tak -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 8:34 a.m.
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                                    Jakob Garal -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 9:40 a.m.
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                              Dmitriy Obukhov -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 3:21 p.m.
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                                Jakob Garal -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 11:30 p.m.
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                                  Dmitriy Obukhov -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 5:15 p.m.
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                                    Jakob Garal -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 5:47 p.m.
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                                      Dmitriy Obukhov -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 7:57 p.m.
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                                        Jakob Garal -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 11:09 p.m.
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                                          Rick Janowski -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 11:32 p.m.
                                          • Honest_Answer_at_least_OK?
                                            Jakob Garal -- Thursday, 6 October 2016, at 8:34 a.m.
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                                          Dmitriy Obukhov -- Thursday, 6 October 2016, at 2:20 a.m.
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                              Rick Janowski -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 3:24 p.m.
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                                Jakob Garal -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 11:21 p.m.
                • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                  Dmitriy Obukhov -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 3:49 a.m.
                  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                    Jakob Garal -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 8:23 a.m.
                    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                      Dmitriy Obukhov -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 6:16 p.m.
                      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                        Jakob Garal -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 7:47 p.m.
                        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                          Dmitriy Obukhov -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 9:37 p.m.
              • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                Colin Owen -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 2:05 p.m.
                • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                  Casper Van der Tak -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 2:25 p.m.
                  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                    Bob Koca -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 9:29 p.m.
                    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                      sebalotek -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 9:52 p.m.
                      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                        Bob Koca -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 10:24 p.m.
                        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                          sebalotek -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 11:42 p.m.
                • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                  sebalotek -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 9:37 p.m.
                  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                    Bob Koca -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 10:28 p.m.
                    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                      sebalotek -- Monday, 3 October 2016, at 8:55 a.m.
                  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                    Neil Robins -- Tuesday, 4 October 2016, at 8:31 p.m.
                    • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                      sebalotek -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 6:10 p.m.
                      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                        Colin Owen -- Wednesday, 5 October 2016, at 7:15 p.m.
                        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                          sebalotek -- Thursday, 6 October 2016, at 9:15 a.m.
              • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
                Rick Janowski -- Sunday, 2 October 2016, at 3:38 p.m.
      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
        Sean Garber -- Saturday, 24 September 2016, at 4:02 a.m.
        • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
          Sean Garber -- Saturday, 24 September 2016, at 4:07 a.m.
      • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
        Jakob Garal -- Thursday, 29 September 2016, at 4:59 p.m.
  • Why football type score tie-breaks are undesireable
    Rick Janowski -- Friday, 23 September 2016, at 3:36 p.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    Neil Robins -- Monday, 26 September 2016, at 8:53 p.m.
  • What is the best (fairest and most efficient) way to tie-break 4 player round robins?
    Phil Simborg -- Friday, 30 September 2016, at 7:23 p.m.